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Posted - 2014.10.13 18:52:00 -
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Posted - 2014.10.13 19:23:00 -
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Interesting .... ... but do I now really have to read his drivel? :/
I mean ... it's Gevlon Goblin! -.-'
Oooookaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy............................. .......... still better than reading James' bullcrap. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 19:27:00 -
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Well the first thing that came to my mind after reading a few lines, was ...
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Posted - 2014.10.13 19:31:00 -
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Okay so I read through the whole post .................... ............. and it makes sense.
Can we ban them all?
lol inbefore the goons come and crap into this thread. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 19:42:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:In essence Gevlon's point is that the "fun" of dropping a disproportionately large force on a smaller force at any arbitrary point on the map at any arbitrary time will lead eve to it's death.
He's not wrong.
The "fun" of the large blocs is unsustainable. Don't believe me? Just look at all of the mewling on these forums from those same sov players bemoaning a lack of ~content~ over the past nine months. These people are carebears......... ...... nullbears, to be exact. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 19:51:00 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:... What tells you that most of the scrubs ... ... you call them line members ... ... aren't just carebears?
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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:06:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote: The second is to open the eyes of line members to an understanding that they really don't want to be playing Eve in order to log in and press F1 but to return to a game of real consequence and reward and that doing so will involve a change in the status quo, and that CCP is orchestrating this. Spitting in the wind, man. Spitting in the wind. Look at it from a line members perspective: Your make isk in your afktar with ease. Things are good. Your favorite FC takes out a fleet, and all you have to do is listen and push a couple buttons. Things are good. You and your 200 buddies just popped some 20 man frigate gang. Things are good. You lost your ship to some ~1337 Pvpers~, your alliance replaces it. Things are good. Carebears ... ... like those in RvB ... and CODE ... EVEUNI ....... BNI ....................... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:20:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:None of those entities take all of their friends across the map to leverage their disproportionate force for "fun". Although one of those entities has been on the receiving end of the "fun" suppository for quite some time now, in a "game preserve".  Oh nono ...
It's not about the entities, sorry ... it's about the people.
I've noticed this a while ago but now it makes sense on a different scale. People in RvB, who cry for lack of FCs ... as much as everywhere else. Fleetbears, or F1bears. They're in it for easymode fun, not for challenges.
That's what I meant. This group fo people grew and grew over the last years and it's this group of people who whines about afk cloakers and about lack of "content" and about lack of "income".
Basically ... carebears. These people are actually bad for the game.
I'm just ... connecting dots. I keep reading his blog and ... wow ... ... I kind of feel ashamed now that I never considered reading more about his stuff.
People even told me I should talk to him, because he's nuts but dedicated.
He delivers data. And it makes SENSE too!
Gonna keep reading... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:36:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:words lol CODE.
CODE = Goons ... sorry, dismissed. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:20:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So because we have a close knit community that means the people in charge run big rmt operations and that we all want EVE to be yet another theampark? What do his points have to do with this?
His points were valid. He considered the perspective of the typical player, of which many seem to be carebears ... which is easily assumable simply from the huge amount of people. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:35:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:The problem with both of the blocs is that you think the way to fix eve is for the *other* guy's coalition to stop existing. Mention putting their own "close knit" community of 30,000 on the chopping bloc and you may as well open the floodgates. Funny, your block [Grr Goons] seem to think just by breaking up the big power blocks your lives and EVE will be all sunshine and rainbows, and we will all be holding hands singing kumbaya. 1. There is no "GRR GOONS" block, so this is a bogus statement. These people do not work together like your people do, so calling them a "block" is nonsense.
2. The handholding is already happening and part of the issue. The contrary is what's desired.
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:12:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:Most of his statistical data is misused, it's selectively presented in a light that makes it fit and support the thesis. And, just like a tabloid, he uses the claim of 'data' (misrepresented data, but DATA) backing him up to fool people into thinking it's all legitimate. I never read his blog before and considered him a nutjob.
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:47:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Trii Seo wrote:Most of his statistical data is misused, it's selectively presented in a light that makes it fit and support the thesis. And, just like a tabloid, he uses the claim of 'data' (misrepresented data, but DATA) backing him up to fool people into thinking it's all legitimate. I never read his blog before and considered him a nutjob. Do you have any proof that makes your words more believeable than his? Off the top of my hat? He claimed that Powerpoint Coalition was an independent pirate group focused solely on disrupting ratters. While even the powerpoint itself outlined "sov targets and moons" as one of the major goals of their campaign. He also mixes up terminology - a good instance would be chalking every case of a CFC present on a CFC killmail as an Awox, then claiming "rampant awoxing" among our ranks. Most of those "Awoxes" feature battleships hitting each other with smartbombs (especially when ratting - then they do rack up a significant amount of damage over time which winds up on the lossmail. The smartbomb damage in those cases especially is not a big factor due to hardener setups). Finally, his method of "filtering" (de-whoring) killmails is very much flawed as it does not present the whole picture of a killmail. Many ships vital to a kill don't even register using that method (HICs on a super - it's pretty normal for a super to be tackled by hictors, but most of the time hictors don't fit guns. Their infinipoints, if used, register for 0.0% damage so by his logic - they don't register. Similar situation for logistics and ECM.) (EDIT: I could go on - probably write my own blog about how Gevlon is wrong about a lot of things. But those are just a few things I came up with off the top of my amazing hat.) Interesting read.
Still, he adresses some points in his latest entry that do make sense. He talks about how people work ... and it fits. It does not have to have a lot of ground in reality, but what he says makes an awfull lot of sense, in regards to human beings at least.
And when he talks about killmails that show people working together ... ... when they most probably should fight instead ... ... that's not really dismissable either, no?
And whatever people say about TMC.com (i read it sometimes) it is not dismissable either that TMC profits from increased PLEX sales ... so whoever runs TMC profits with it.
And I really have no reason to believe that alliance leaders aren't trying to bank in one way or the other, with some doing things that are more questionable than others. Humans simply are humans and there's no conspiracy behind that.
It's dots ... and some of these dots make sense when fit together.
I'd like to know more, please? I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 12:31:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:So to be clear, you were impressed that Gevlon bought data available for free from zkillboard, analysed it badly and came to conclusions which the data can;t possibly represent, then you read on to his post about how video games shouldn't be fun and that CCP are removing fun from the game which he believes is a good thing, then you decided to post a wall of text about it here?
The answer to you're question is no, I will not be unsubbing because of the nerf since nothing will really change that much for null blobs, but CCP need to get to grips on what makes a game entertaining otherwise they will lose me to Elite Dangerous. Doing pretty much anything in eve is tedious and boring, not exactly what makes a game good. I do agree that if the game is "fun" only, then there's no point to it.
Sorry, but there are people who want a niche game that's not just entertaining, because every stupid lesser game already provides that.
I prefer my games hard, challenging, annoying and cumbersome.
Pretty much this: A game that offers a wide range of feelings is better than one that offers just one. So, basically, you're superficial.
So what exactly makes a game good? One that's fun ... ... or one that offers a huge variety of feelings?
Feel free to go. :) I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 14:42:00 -
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lol the forum trolling nobody calls me a forum troll ... that's hilarious.
You haven't really adressed my post.
The point ...
Eve offers a wide variety of feelings ... ... and all you want is fun.
I understand thqt scrubs like you have no idea of the actual depth of the game ... ... so please understand that your "fun" and your "challenges" aren't really what it has been about for pretty much a decade.
If this game never makes you feel miserable ... ... and thus makes you stand up again to become better ... ... then that's your issue.
Being annoyed and whatever else you wanna come up with ... ... is a part of the game. It bellngs into the game. It's why this game is great.
It's because it's the only one like it.
Anyone who calls EVE entertainment has no clue about EVE ONLINE, because EVE ONLINE never was meant to be ENTERTAINMENT! I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 17:55:00 -
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*pets Lucas' head*
Boom... I'm looking for that wow you wanted to post. ^_^ I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 18:07:00 -
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Boom McCondor wrote:Solecist Project wrote:*pets Lucas' head*
Boom... I'm looking for that wow you wanted to post. ^_^ Eh, it's ultimately inconsequential. I'll change it to "Wow! Noticed by a forum pro! I can retire." Kind of removes all the fun out of it. :/ I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.14 18:38:00 -
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No, Lucas. It's way more meta than that.
I make you post and play with your weak ego. I do not need to "come back", because there is no point to it. You will just keep babbling your drivel anyway!
You have proven that more often than I can count ... ... and I am not daft enough to behave like all those dipswitches who keep talking ... ... although there is no point to it! :D
Weaklings like you are ego driven! Easy marks! :D
I hope I was able to educate you a bit... but it's unlikely. :( I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.16 07:23:00 -
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Oh this thread is still going!
Have people learned som... eww, what's with all the poo on the wall..... :/ I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |

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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:19:00 -
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Albion online?
What's that?
Does it need a Sol? ^_^ I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. - You are my content, my shiny content - you make me haaappy, when skies are greeeeyyy - you'll never know dear, how much I loooooove you - don't you take my content away! |

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Posted - 2014.10.19 19:06:00 -
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CONCORD mechanics for nullsec ... ... where criminal activity gets declared by the owners ... ... and offenders create a beacon on the overview for everyone visible.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, with sparkles of cinnamon on my skin. You are my content, my shiny content - you make me haaappy, when skies are greeeeyyy - you'll never know dear, how much I loooooove you - don't you take my content away! |
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